 Ka Swaps: Who Has One Working, Who Is Still Working On It? |
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| 200sxfrankenstien |
 Jan 4 2008, 09:42 AM
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n00b Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 1-December 07 From: Milwaukee W.I Member No.: 7,348 Car: mk1 nissan 200sx  |
QUOTE(Altyman @ Jan 4 2008, 05:37 AM)  I don't know if an FSM exists for the MK1.5 honestly... I actually started with custom relays and everything (as you can see in my thread) but got worried about the looks, and how to hide it to the inspection (which I will have to pass to got the car on the street). I'm not a total noob, I might not know as much stuff as you do, but I know I'm not taking the easy route at all and this really is my choice, mainly for aesthetic reasons!  mk1.5 fsm does exist and i have it ive been trying to figure out a way to get that book into a pdf format. the books title is "1986 200sx mid year change" but i have an mk1 i think b/c it was made in january of 86 but to be honest there is not that much different from the mk1 wiring colors |
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| gerrybg |
Jan 4 2008, 02:33 PM
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S12 Enthusiast  Group: Members Posts: 870 Joined: 22-August 02 From: Australia Member No.: 81 Car: 84 hatch, sr turbo converted |
Altyman sorry I come across hard, its cause I'm an old bastard which makes me pretty direct. I mean well help wise.
I understand that inspections might make it hard. I actually stripped my car to a bare shell to restore it, (I mean completely bare so I know what a pain it is to put everything back together again). I don't know that much otherwise I might be able to do it another way. Its just that with what I do know I know I couldn't combine two different systems. If you could get access to one of the 1.5 factory manuals it would make life so much easier I reckon. This post has been edited by gerrybg: Jan 4 2008, 02:35 PM |
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| sinestro |
Jan 4 2008, 04:15 PM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 10-July 05 From: western new york Member No.: 1,591 Car: still a neverending project, but illeagaly driviing 'serenity' |
mine is a ka24de swap is in the 88 se model. still in slow progress
This post has been edited by sinestro: Jan 6 2008, 03:55 AM -------------------- "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat."
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| TechDaddy |
Jan 5 2008, 02:43 AM
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 S12 Supporter Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: 22-June 04 From: Cape Canaveral Member No.: 953 Car: '86 300ZX 2+2 w/ lots of plans to come. |
What hapened to the V6? Seems a shame and a pain to go from 3L V6 to 2.4L I-4 power. You planning on going turbo?
QUOTE(sinestro @ Jan 4 2008, 04:15 PM) my ka swap is in the 88 se model -------------------- 1986 Z31 300ZX 2+2 w/ 90,000 miles!
Many mods to follow! I love how similar they are to an S12! 1987 Hatch w/KA24DE swap - SOLD Z-31 IRS,wheels & brakes '88 SE front brakes, suspension & airdam R-32 Skyline shift lever(2"shorter) Custom shift boot Eclipse shift knob 86 S-12 Turbo front seats |
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| sinestro |
Jan 5 2008, 07:36 AM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 10-July 05 From: western new york Member No.: 1,591 Car: still a neverending project, but illeagaly driviing 'serenity' |
yea the s12 timing belt broke, i bought a d21 truck with the v6 and blew the bottom end. so i guess i'm done with the vg30e for now. i thought about turbo, lately i've been leaning toards a carb setup. but for now just na will be enough, the stock factory rating is only a 5hp, 6tq diffrence, but its a newer design and i already have another to rebuild in my basement. i know how i drive and i thought a ka swap would be cheap but my ka swap is turning in to the most expensive
-------------------- "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat."
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| 200sxfrankenstien |
Jan 5 2008, 12:18 PM
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n00b Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 1-December 07 From: Milwaukee W.I Member No.: 7,348 Car: mk1 nissan 200sx |
QUOTE(sinestro @ Jan 5 2008, 07:36 AM) yea the s12 timing belt broke, i bought a d21 truck with the v6 and blew the bottom end. so i guess i'm done with the vg30e for now. i thought about turbo, lately i've been leaning toards a carb setup. but for now just na will be enough, the stock factory rating is only a 5hp, 6tq diffrence, but its a newer design and i already have another to rebuild in my basement. i know how i drive and i thought a ka swap would be cheap but my ka swap is turning in to the most expensive have you thought about rebuilding the v6? time consuming yes but it would be well worth it i would think |
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| Altyman |
Jan 5 2008, 04:14 PM
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S12 Supporter Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 28-July 06 Member No.: 2,394 Car: 1986 mk1.5 coupe and Daily Civic |
QUOTE(gerrybg @ Jan 4 2008, 09:33 AM) Altyman sorry I come across hard, its cause I'm an old bastard which makes me pretty direct. I mean well help wise. I understand that inspections might make it hard. I actually stripped my car to a bare shell to restore it, (I mean completely bare so I know what a pain it is to put everything back together again). I don't know that much otherwise I might be able to do it another way. Its just that with what I do know I know I couldn't combine two different systems. If you could get access to one of the 1.5 factory manuals it would make life so much easier I reckon. No problem, I'm not frustrated at all or anything! |
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| 200sxkitcar |
Jan 5 2008, 11:43 PM
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 S12 geek Group: Moderators Posts: 5,628 Joined: 18-July 02 From: Hemet CA, where its warm Member No.: 25 Car: many s12s. too many |
Updated, thanks again everybody for the responses.
Tomorrow 200sxfrankenstien and I will be getting together to take a look at his car, and for me to take some pics. I will probably also borrow his mid-year update FSM and scan some stuff, probably forward it to Julie or Premo and have them host it. I don't know how to use my scanner yet lol, nor do I know the procedure for conversion to Adobe PDF file, but I will learn, and I will probably start a thread about it in 'Coffee shop' section if anyone is familiar with the PDF stuff feel free to post up your knowledge -------------------- Sterling Picton
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| silvia love |
Jan 6 2008, 11:31 PM
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 S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 20-July 05 From: bay area, ca Member No.: 1,617 Car: 86 200sx...96 240sx...05 legacy gt |
where did the mk1 fsm's go? none of them work. i need to find ca20e engine compartment and ecu wiring diagrams.
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| 200sxfrankenstien |
Jan 7 2008, 11:40 AM
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n00b Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 1-December 07 From: Milwaukee W.I Member No.: 7,348 Car: mk1 nissan 200sx |
well i have been shot down by silviagod i emailed him to ask approx how much it would cost to ship a kit to the usa and he replied that he does not ship the kits
 im so dissappointed |
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| sinestro |
Jan 9 2008, 08:26 AM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 10-July 05 From: western new york Member No.: 1,591 Car: still a neverending project, but illeagaly driviing 'serenity' |
so yea my ka24de swap is going in the se model, and i am going from a automatic to a standard also, i should of been done by now but because of punk kids i'm still workin on it. first i got the ka deal and got ripped off cause although i said what i wanted i got everything but the transmission and mass air sensor sent to me, and after searching for awile i thought i had a couple of leads here but no one responded back, i finaly found a ka transmission at a local junkyard that cost 300 bucks. that with the standard ca20 xe transmission that i allready got for 300 bucks means that i spent 600 bucks just for a hybrid transmission that i could bolt on to the 600 dollar ka, so for 1200 i could of got a new car. that aside this swap should of been easy, but no the v6 crossmember sits the motor to far foward, and the v6 radiator has no cap, this i temporarily solved with a in-line cap adapter from the summit catolog. the mass air sensor i found was from a ka powered altima, still not sure if it will work, but i guess it should. now my setback is the drive shaft, from what i read some where on here the only one i can use is one from a 88 standard model, as all the earlyer driveshafts have the carrier bearings are in diffrent spots. i did get lucky in some ways, as the holes are all there for a auto to manual swap so far, and most of the clutch stuff i got out off my old truck. it will be like a totaly diffrent car when i'm done. i just like the idea of useing nissan's 'bastard' motor in there 'forgotten' car
This post has been edited by sinestro: Jan 15 2008, 07:03 PM -------------------- "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat."
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| 200sxfrankenstien |
Jan 9 2008, 12:09 PM
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n00b Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 1-December 07 From: Milwaukee W.I Member No.: 7,348 Car: mk1 nissan 200sx |
QUOTE(silvia love @ Jan 6 2008, 11:31 PM) where did the mk1 fsm's go? none of them work. i need to find ca20e engine compartment and ecu wiring diagrams. in the "ka24de in mk1" topic i put a link in there for a 1986 mk1 fsm go check it out |
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| silvia love |
Jan 9 2008, 07:55 PM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 20-July 05 From: bay area, ca Member No.: 1,617 Car: 86 200sx...96 240sx...05 legacy gt |
QUOTE(200sxfrankenstien @ Jan 9 2008, 12:09 PM) in the "ka24de in mk1" topic i put a link in there for a 1986 mk1 fsm go check it out the links dont work |
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| 200sxfrankenstien |
Jan 9 2008, 11:38 PM
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n00b Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 1-December 07 From: Milwaukee W.I Member No.: 7,348 Car: mk1 nissan 200sx |
QUOTE(silvia love @ Jan 9 2008, 07:55 PM) the links dont work the second link takes you to the webpage that i found the link in. its about half way down This post has been edited by 200sxfrankenstien: Jan 9 2008, 11:39 PM |
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| Josh |
Jan 10 2008, 02:13 AM
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S12 Supporter Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 22-March 05 From: Gaithersburg, MD Member No.: 1,254 Car: 86 NISSAN 200SX KA24DE(T) |
I just wanted to post to show my car. I have read stuff sayin that noone has a KAT. I have one but I had to move to Az for UTI. Imma tow it out here and finish it. I just had to finish wiring
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| EternalSwap |
Jan 10 2008, 04:17 AM
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 no kiddies kthx Group: Members Posts: 4,606 Joined: 27-May 06 From: fishtacoville , CA Member No.: 2,260 Car: 10 Ranger; 85 S12 coupe |
No shit, I was THIS close to going to UTI in AZ, but then I decided to stay in SoCal...
Sinestro, for drive shafts I used the front half S13 KA 5-sp and rear origional 84 CA18ET. -------------------- -Alex
BUY MY SHIT! EL PENE DE LA MUERTE QUOTE(David B @ Apr 28 2010, 09:16 PM) wow. im horny. i dont know why. but i just figured id let you guys know. i really wanna bite someones bean. i mean. chomp on some ass QUOTE(EightySix200SX @ Apr 14 2010, 10:57 PM) Edit: were you in the Klan truck? |
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| silvia love |
Jan 10 2008, 09:29 PM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 20-July 05 From: bay area, ca Member No.: 1,617 Car: 86 200sx...96 240sx...05 legacy gt |
QUOTE(EternalNewbie @ Jan 10 2008, 04:17 AM) No shit, I was THIS close to going to UTI in AZ, but then I decided to stay in SoCal... Sinestro, for drive shafts I used the front half S13 KA 5-sp and rear origional 84 CA18ET. anyone know the differences in mk1 xe's rear part of the driveshaft to the turbo's. obviously r180-r200. any lenght or bolting differences. can the ca20e rear bolt to s13 front? |
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| EternalSwap |
Jan 10 2008, 10:31 PM
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no kiddies kthx Group: Members Posts: 4,606 Joined: 27-May 06 From: fishtacoville , CA Member No.: 2,260 Car: 10 Ranger; 85 S12 coupe |
Go to a junkyard and try it.
Then take the front part of the S13 one home, put it in your pants and say you have a big dick -------------------- -Alex
BUY MY SHIT! EL PENE DE LA MUERTE QUOTE(David B @ Apr 28 2010, 09:16 PM) wow. im horny. i dont know why. but i just figured id let you guys know. i really wanna bite someones bean. i mean. chomp on some ass QUOTE(EightySix200SX @ Apr 14 2010, 10:57 PM) Edit: were you in the Klan truck? |
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| sinestro |
Jan 15 2008, 07:22 PM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 10-July 05 From: western new york Member No.: 1,591 Car: still a neverending project, but illeagaly driviing 'serenity' |
i'm still looking for a standard driveshaft, i know i need the 88' model years but i'm not sure if the standard se and the standard xe from that year was the same, i imagine it is? i am using the bellhouse swap method so the gearbox was from a ca20 xe model that was in the junkyard, as for a 240 driveshaft around me that car is nonexistant. i still have 'assembly' to complete but now its winter in new york and i am doing this all in the middle of my driveway. my wiring i asume should be similar to the mk2 wiring but it would seem that more of you are in mk1's
This post has been edited by sinestro: Jan 15 2008, 07:23 PM -------------------- "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat."
userbar by someone? i know old navy sucks, but i can't help myself i like the music... http://www.iamlights.com/ nunquam dormio |
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| Philipn126 |
Jan 17 2008, 04:43 PM
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S12 Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 1,254 Joined: 31-March 03 From: Lexington, KY USA Member No.: 340 Car: 1987 KA24DE Swapped S12 (As of December 2005) |
Mine runs great!
-------------------- "I didn't want to waste all of my time on a broken orb."
87 KA24DE Notch http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view...=Nissan%20200SX |
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