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| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 7 2010, 10:05 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
FINALLY!
I rented a truck, and went to Daytona, stuck in traffic for 4 hours, cuz of bike week.. BUT.. it was worth it, since i now own a ka24e engine (all accessories), transmission (rebuilt in 07), ecu, and motor mounts! I got it for a steal $100. Ok, now down to business, the actual swap.. Im going to take out my old ca engine, and clean out the engine bay during the weekend. Then only things i need are: Front drive shaft Engine Wire harness. I will post up pics while i go. Here it goes, my crappy ca20e is being replaced with me ka24e, (eventually ka24eT) This post has been edited by xxstreetbikesxx: Jul 25 2010, 04:28 PM -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 27 2010, 01:45 AM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
Sorry for the long update.
so far, i took out the old engine harness, took out all the hoses, and lines. and today i made the "custom" motor mounts. (hockey puck mod) lol. Im picking up the cherry picker tomorrow, so i can pull the ca20e (crappy ass 2.0 engine) lol. Will put pics up soon. wish me luck. -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Johnny_boi |
Mar 27 2010, 01:51 AM
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![]() S12 Supporter ![]() Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 10-June 09 From: Reno NV Member No.: 8,955 Car: 1987 200sx vg 5speed, 1991 240sx 5speed ka24de, 1992 240sx auto ka24de |
is this a build tread?
-------------------- ![]() "there's no replacement for displacement, ITS CALLED A TURBO" 87 SE S12 (BOUGHT FOR $400, SOLD FOR $800) 87 XE S12 (BOUGHT FOR $500, SOLD FOR $1000) 93 ALIMA (BOUGHT FOR $280, SOLD FOR $1000) 92 240SX SE S13 (BOUGHT FOR $1000, DD) 86 XE S12 KA24DE (BOUGHT FOR $400 PROJECT) |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 27 2010, 11:32 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
is this a build tread? ya, i probably put this in the wrong section though. so if Arro or somebody can move it, i dont think i can. This post has been edited by xxstreetbikesxx: Mar 28 2010, 01:43 AM -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Johnny_boi |
Mar 28 2010, 12:04 AM
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![]() S12 Supporter ![]() Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 10-June 09 From: Reno NV Member No.: 8,955 Car: 1987 200sx vg 5speed, 1991 240sx 5speed ka24de, 1992 240sx auto ka24de |
yup u did lol
-------------------- ![]() "there's no replacement for displacement, ITS CALLED A TURBO" 87 SE S12 (BOUGHT FOR $400, SOLD FOR $800) 87 XE S12 (BOUGHT FOR $500, SOLD FOR $1000) 93 ALIMA (BOUGHT FOR $280, SOLD FOR $1000) 92 240SX SE S13 (BOUGHT FOR $1000, DD) 86 XE S12 KA24DE (BOUGHT FOR $400 PROJECT) |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 12:07 AM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
Ok, so after working about 7 straight hours, i finally got the ca20 engine out, without breaking anything!
Out with the old... ![]() In with the new, ![]() What 7 hours of work do... ![]() Cool shot of the engine, (im sooo sorry about the ford in the back.. its my moms, and its probably the worst car i have ever drove. She needs to sell that crap) ![]() Finally out =] ![]() So all i need to do now, is Clean the bay, drop the new engine in, connect harness, and yeah, Im switching bellhousings from my ca, to ka, so i can still use my ca trans, till i get a new driveshaft. how in the world do i take off the bell housing? i unscrewed everything from the bellhousing, but when i separate the bellhousing off of the trans, it gets stuck. I separate it about 2 inches, and its stuck, wtf? Thanks! -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| sam31183 |
Mar 28 2010, 01:53 AM
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![]() Dark Lord of The Drift. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 6,571 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Long Beach Wa. Member No.: 1,221 Car: 1985 Nissan 200sx hatch B Transmission CA18DET/1985 KA24DE Nissan 200sx Notch |
you should have prolly took the engine and trans out together that way it would be easier to work on the trans to get the bellhousing off...
-------------------- ![]() Build Thread Hatch CA18DET Eventually a Track Whore Build Thread Notch KA24DE Daily Driver haha me modding would be a disaster.....Id get all power hungry and demand n00dz from everyone. Then make all the canadian s12er's come here and massage my feet and make me jello pudding. Actually....mod powers plz?!?!?! 0:) |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 01:59 AM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
you should have prolly took the engine and trans out together that way it would be easier to work on the trans to get the bellhousing off... I guess. Idk, i just want to pop off the bellhousing, and swap it, so i can still use my b trans, with my ka bell housing. but i cant get the housing, and the acctual trans, apart. -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Arro |
Mar 28 2010, 02:45 AM
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![]() Now I can say "JDM" and not be a tool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Administrator Posts: 14,253 Joined: 18-July 02 From: San Jacinto, CA, USA (951) Member No.: 30 Car: '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X FJ20 carbureted, '85 Nissan 200SX CA20E, '85 Nissan 200SX KA24DE |
You're gonna want to pull the trans and do that outside of the car. No question about it.
I moved the thread to the Garage -------------------- ![]() -Jason Arro '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X w/ FJ20 carbs, exhaust, complete custom fuel system, remote battery, JDM goodness '85 Nissan 200SX w/ KA24DE Drive it like you stole it, and work on it like you married it - self quote QUOTE("TanManS14 on KA-t.org") Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both. |
| Jay |
Mar 28 2010, 02:48 AM
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![]() Bastard Beam! GO!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,779 Joined: 4-May 07 From: Wausau, Wi Member No.: 3,776 Car: 84 K-sport KA24DE S12, 95 H&R A32, 89 PGT, 92 Beater Civic, 89 323 GTX , 89 stock E30, 94 workhorse Corsica |
You're gonna want to pull the trans and do that outside of the car. No question about it. I moved the thread to the Garage Agreed. Pull the trans. You'll thank us profusely later -------------------- |
| Arro |
Mar 28 2010, 03:03 AM
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![]() Now I can say "JDM" and not be a tool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Administrator Posts: 14,253 Joined: 18-July 02 From: San Jacinto, CA, USA (951) Member No.: 30 Car: '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X FJ20 carbureted, '85 Nissan 200SX CA20E, '85 Nissan 200SX KA24DE |
So, because things happen... in the future, pull it engine and trans together. Gives you an opportunity to inspect things, and it's a lot less work than uncoupling the engine from the trans while in the car.
When you go to put it all back into the car, you DEFINITELY want to do it as ONE engine/trans assembly. That way all you have to do is set it onto the motor mounts, then bolt up the trans mount, and it's in. -------------------- ![]() -Jason Arro '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X w/ FJ20 carbs, exhaust, complete custom fuel system, remote battery, JDM goodness '85 Nissan 200SX w/ KA24DE Drive it like you stole it, and work on it like you married it - self quote QUOTE("TanManS14 on KA-t.org") Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both. |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 02:20 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
So, because things happen... in the future, pull it engine and trans together. Gives you an opportunity to inspect things, and it's a lot less work than uncoupling the engine from the trans while in the car. When you go to put it all back into the car, you DEFINITELY want to do it as ONE engine/trans assembly. That way all you have to do is set it onto the motor mounts, then bolt up the trans mount, and it's in. Will do. Today, i dont know if i will have engough time to take out the old tranny, because i got church. But i can still try -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 10:45 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
Ok, The only thing i had time for today, was to take off the ka bellhousing.
Finally did it, after a couple of hours of being stumped. -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Arro |
Mar 28 2010, 10:52 PM
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![]() Now I can say "JDM" and not be a tool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Administrator Posts: 14,253 Joined: 18-July 02 From: San Jacinto, CA, USA (951) Member No.: 30 Car: '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X FJ20 carbureted, '85 Nissan 200SX CA20E, '85 Nissan 200SX KA24DE |
I see you are looking for an extra KA motor mount. Might I suggest the NISMO mount? Talk to Justin on here and get it for an unbelievably good price, far better than anyone else.
The NISMO mount is nice because it's stiffer than stock, but not so stiff that it rattles your teeth loose. -------------------- ![]() -Jason Arro '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X w/ FJ20 carbs, exhaust, complete custom fuel system, remote battery, JDM goodness '85 Nissan 200SX w/ KA24DE Drive it like you stole it, and work on it like you married it - self quote QUOTE("TanManS14 on KA-t.org") Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both. |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 11:23 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
I see you are looking for an extra KA motor mount. Might I suggest the NISMO mount? Talk to Justin on here and get it for an unbelievably good price, far better than anyone else. The NISMO mount is nice because it's stiffer than stock, but not so stiff that it rattles your teeth loose. Its cool man, i already made hockey puck motor mounts. My engine harness, is "supposed" to come tomorrow via ups., so the plan is to clean up the bay, and swap bellhousings tomorrow, and the day after, drop in the new engine, with the harness. it should be running by thursday/friday. -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Arro |
Mar 28 2010, 11:34 PM
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![]() Now I can say "JDM" and not be a tool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Administrator Posts: 14,253 Joined: 18-July 02 From: San Jacinto, CA, USA (951) Member No.: 30 Car: '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X FJ20 carbureted, '85 Nissan 200SX CA20E, '85 Nissan 200SX KA24DE |
Are you going to run track only? Do you mind removing your rear view mirror? The hockey pucks are violent and your rear view mirror will be all over the place. It's not really a good idea on anything other than a track car.
-------------------- ![]() -Jason Arro '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X w/ FJ20 carbs, exhaust, complete custom fuel system, remote battery, JDM goodness '85 Nissan 200SX w/ KA24DE Drive it like you stole it, and work on it like you married it - self quote QUOTE("TanManS14 on KA-t.org") Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both. |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 11:39 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
Are you going to run track only? Do you mind removing your rear view mirror? The hockey pucks are violent and your rear view mirror will be all over the place. It's not really a good idea on anything other than a track car. Its going to be both my track car, and a car just to get me to collage every morning.. but comfort is the last thing on my mind, for me, its Power, reliability and then, and/or comfort. I dont mind it vibrating alot. -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Arro |
Mar 28 2010, 11:43 PM
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![]() Now I can say "JDM" and not be a tool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Administrator Posts: 14,253 Joined: 18-July 02 From: San Jacinto, CA, USA (951) Member No.: 30 Car: '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X FJ20 carbureted, '85 Nissan 200SX CA20E, '85 Nissan 200SX KA24DE |
Motor mounts don't make power.
NISMO mounts are stiffer than you will ever need and will outlast the car. I have factory mounts (original ones from the S14 the engine came off of) and they're decent. So the NISMO ones are plenty. Calling it "vibration" is an understatement. Even guys who run baller-style track cars shy away from them. They work, but like I said your rear view mirrors will be useless. Anyways if you don't like it, you can always unbolt them, jack the engine up, and put in NISMO mounts. Don't need to pull the engine. -------------------- ![]() -Jason Arro '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X w/ FJ20 carbs, exhaust, complete custom fuel system, remote battery, JDM goodness '85 Nissan 200SX w/ KA24DE Drive it like you stole it, and work on it like you married it - self quote QUOTE("TanManS14 on KA-t.org") Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both. |
| xxstreetbikesxx |
Mar 28 2010, 11:52 PM
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![]() S12 Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 30-December 09 From: Palm Coast, Florida Member No.: 9,516 Car: Ka24et S12 |
Motor mounts don't make power. NISMO mounts are stiffer than you will ever need and will outlast the car. I have factory mounts (original ones from the S14 the engine came off of) and they're decent. So the NISMO ones are plenty. Calling it "vibration" is an understatement. Even guys who run baller-style track cars shy away from them. They work, but like I said your rear view mirrors will be useless. Anyways if you don't like it, you can always unbolt them, jack the engine up, and put in NISMO mounts. Don't need to pull the engine. It doesent make power, but it restores power, from old soft mounts. Since the engine does not waste power from moving side to side under heavy acceleration. and yeah, it only cost me $15, so if i dont like them, its not a big loss, i can just buy nismo mounts.. so mounts are not a problem. -------------------- -signature edited as it violates the rules-
Currently working on my ca20e to ka24e swap.. going to boost it after the swap Swap Thread: From Ca20e to Ka24e Do you have a extra ka front driveshaft? i need it! click here! Need Ca20e parts? Click here! Lots of parts for sale! |
| Arro |
Mar 29 2010, 12:04 AM
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![]() Now I can say "JDM" and not be a tool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Administrator Posts: 14,253 Joined: 18-July 02 From: San Jacinto, CA, USA (951) Member No.: 30 Car: '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X FJ20 carbureted, '85 Nissan 200SX CA20E, '85 Nissan 200SX KA24DE |
Second part we agree on, the first part we don't. It doesn't make power to keep the engine from twisting. Unless you have some shot-to-hell stock mounts on a very-high horsepower engine, you're not gonna feel the difference. It will help in keeping your exhaust manifolds and downpipes from cracking, although if you're sticking with the cast manifold, you're probably going to be fine regardless. It's cheapo ebay headers that have the most problems with severe twist. But I would challenge anyone to see if they can visually spot twist with Nismo mounts
-------------------- ![]() -Jason Arro '85 Nissan Silvia RS-X w/ FJ20 carbs, exhaust, complete custom fuel system, remote battery, JDM goodness '85 Nissan 200SX w/ KA24DE Drive it like you stole it, and work on it like you married it - self quote QUOTE("TanManS14 on KA-t.org") Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both. |
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