Just linking up some stuff I'm finding on Zilvia. trying to conquer that giant

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=185962 post14

Cervasa on 240SXF made 187 with:
Exedy Stage 2 Clutch
Fidanza 11lbs FW
P & P w/ 5 Angle Valve Job by Cosworth
Ferrera 1mm OS Int/Exh Valves
Ferrera Dual Springs and Retainers
Bc 272 Cams
Xcessive Intake Mani
Hotshot Intake
Dc Header
Catco 3"
RS*R Ex MAg
Cometic 91mm HG
ARP Main and Rod Bolts
Wiseco 90.5mm 10.5:1 C/R Pistons *correction 89.5*
Eagle Rods
UR Crank Pulley
Sard FPR
Walboro 255lph Pump
JWT Cam Gears
Thermal Intake Gasket
DeatschWerks 450cc injectors
Deso Iridum Plugs
Magnacor Wires
Crank Scraper
Contact E1 Egriego (SP?) on here for a bitchin ECU tune.

These are his head flow numbers:

Quote: Originally Posted by Cervasa 1mm Oversized valve I & E
Valve Lift / CFM

Intake:
.100" = 122
.200" = 228
.300" = 316
.400" = 332
.500" = 379
Exhaust:
.100" = 106
.200" = 193
.300" = 253
.400" = 278
.500" = 281 and hes has 1mm OS Valves

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=183839

I went to the track this past weekend and suprisingly ran a 14.837 at 95.29mph! I wasn't really expecting it to run that time due to most 240's are in the low 15s. The first run i hit a 15.78 at 90mph

91 240sx Hatch (base model)
Motor:
KA24DE - 82,XXX miles
Mods:
- Ebay Intake
- DC Header
- 3in Ebay Exhaust/Test Pipe
- Welded Diff
- MSD Coil
- 248/248 exhaust cam swap
- ACT 3 Clutch
- Hockey Puck Motor Mounts (Their solid and had them on for 2 months )

Suspension:
- KYB Shocks
- Tein Lowering Springs

Weight Reduction:
- Spare Tire
- Passenger Seat
- Rear Seats

The Bad:
- 180sx rims,15x6, w/BALD TIRES

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=91288 official n/a thread

not bad can't wait to get my ka

Doing research for the engine build.

should be quite obvious by now that I'm headed N/A KA.

I mean shit, they guy ran a high 14 with simple mods, and I have a car far lighter than his, with more upgrades. Thats plenty quick enough, no turbo needed.

Gathered there are 10.5:1 pistons (Weisco) and 11.1:1 (JE). 10.5:1 verified running ok on pump gas, but unsure if its 93 or 91 cali piss.

don't forget that theres also the brian crower stroker kit for the ka too now, strokes out to 2.6 liters, theres no replacement for displacement

While that is pretty cool, probably over the top for me.

Definitely a nice addition to th list, tho.

2.6=sexy.

Jumping to FreshAlloy,

bonerriffic race car build. This guy is in SD, I've got to meet him someday. Right now, he's my hero lol

http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=139581

Oh, you know, when that isn't good enough, he elevates his pimp status

http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=163184

OH AND WHAT IS HE DOING KA+T

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I think this guy is on here,
http://www.geocities.com/wssnider/240sx.html
http://www.geocities.com/wssnider/240sxDYNO.html
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'I think your best bet, currently...is this (from "Best of 240SX"):
http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=152417
RB20 flywheel (aftermarket, lightened) plus a 350Z/G35 clutch from ACT.
...
FWIW, my normal KA24 ACT Clutch (street/strip, organic disc) is holding +275ft/lbs without issue.
...but if I were to do it over, I'd use the setup listed above.'


'For the flywheel - when I did mine I only came across 3 brands, Spec - Fidanza - and Jun
Got myself a JUN (I like chromoly better than Al and dont like the idea of having bolts holding my friction surface...)
here (had a good experience with them when I got my flywheel - shipped in no time) http://www.upgrademotoring.com/perfo...ltflywheel.htm
about 11-12lbs -- me like a lot not to light (got to rush to shift) not to heavy (have to wait to release the clutch) - just the way it should be IMO
I do believe that when I ordered mine they had a lighter one avaible - but I can't seem to find anything about it anymore --- my memory might be tricking me .
Clutchwise my act is holding good so far'

OOOOOhhhhhhHHH

that control panel is fuckin badass. nice work

That's an ALS controller! BANG-BANG is awesome shit, I rode in a rally car with anti-lag once. Loud as phuck! It was a Mazda 323 GTX, a very rare 1.8L turbo AWD wonder.

Thats not in my car, just to clarify. The guy had it custom CNC machined, his design. I saw that ALS stuff and was !!!!

man i want a set-up like that i my car when it's done that shit is awesome

ALS isn't street legal J, and I promise the cops would hear your car from miles away lol. It's LOUD, that's why they call it "bang-bang".

Little children would scream, and the road would be clear.

Horn delete= 1.5lb!

DC Sports header. $388 for ceramic coated... wow http://www.2kracing.com/Product/2537.html
These people have it listed as stainless. That makes more sense. Nice fwd header pic tho http://www.importrp.com/product.php?produc...t=54&page=1

Spyder?? $229. http://www.2kracing.com/Product/16022.html

OBX $304. http://www.2kracing.com/Product/18387.html

A FAQ http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/headers.htm

gotta wonder about some of this stuff http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan--240SX-headers.html

JE pistons. gotta love the links that don't work. What is it with people who sell import parts that can't setup a fucking website? seems so common
http://www.jepistons.com/cat/je/sport/nissan/ka24de.shtml
11:1

Wiseco pistons http://www.wiseco.com/Catalogs/Automobile.aspx under Sport Compact, Nissan
10.5:1
Further down, under Gaskets/Rods/Crank,etc- .040 metal HG W6310 max bore 90
Noted, listings for HG and pistons for FJ!

More??
Wish they weren't forged. Hypereuclectic (sp?) would be perfect, strength of forged not really needed for 170whp lol.

Jim Wolf Technology.

Seems to be recommended by many in terms of the cams and ECU.

My wallet hurts on this one, haven't even gotten to the prices yet.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/customer_results.asp

RWD cam set A2401-N00S1 http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/customer_...il.asp?PartID=1
$560. Told you my butt would hurt .390"lift/270 duration. Factory springs ok.

Adj cam sprocket set AKADE-SPROC http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/customer_...il.asp?PartID=9
$140. Unsure if necessary, any particular benefits. WAY more research needed

Federal-spec retuned ECU. E2401-NMF00 http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/customer_...l.asp?PartID=72 $595. Can be setup for different MAFs, etc. Several reports that it is nearly dead-on when sent in for fine tuning with S-AFC on a dyno. Still painful. Do you send in your stock ECU??

Ohh. Cobra MAF. Bet its really big. Probably could get many different MAFs tho... IMAFC-COBRA http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/customer_....asp?PartID=274 $325.

what exactly is needed for making the KA stronger,
without the confusing words

like how much money all together,
should i spend.
while my engine is out?
i realize i might want to buy a gasket kit,
but i would like a very dependable 2.4 liter 4 cyl

like rock solid

Bits and pieces.

This cool intake mani gasket. Prices on this site are good too, esp. if those are OEM Nissan parts. OEM Nissan=goodness. http://www.frsport.com/Circuit-Sports-CS-T...4DE_p_8139.html
$29. I definitely want

ARP stud kit. http://www.frsport.com/ARP-165-5401-KA24DE...ts-_p_3078.html
$129.

I saw Jason's shifter on there, listed for a cool $120. Looked to be the same. I think he paid $50-60? lol

Timing chain replacement kit, just oe-spec stuff. Probably a good idea. http://www.frsport.com/OSK-13028-53F02-KA2...0SX_p_3225.html
$155.

Bottom end parts, incl. bearings and rings, oem stuffs http://www.frsport.com/Engine-Bottom-End_c_75.html

Mr. Gasket Copper Exhaust Mani gasket... part #7216 TB gasket 243G
http://www.amsperformance.com/store/produc...roducts_id=1188

I really would like to find a COPPER head gasket? where.....

hmm more looking...
http://www.streetperformance.com/part/sce-...4971-91665.html
$95

https://www.horsepowerparts.com/index.php?c...;product_id=932 Same thing for $59? hmm

^their entire selection http://www.horsepowerparts.com/index.php?c...gine_code_id=21

Check into Total Seal piston rings. Work w/stock pistons?


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David, if you don't want/need to go turbo...

Nothing.

The engine is already pretty well built, some of the stuff I'm after is based on versatility (re-usability) and quality, so as you said... rock solid.

Most of this is in excess, but thats how I roll with this one.

For a regular OEM rebuild, figure about $500 for everything or less, thats with no hot-rod parts.

There were some Nissan OEM (original equipment) rebuild gasket kits, those would be obviously of good quality.

If you want more strength for turboing, thats a whole different subject, and beyond the basis of this thread. If thats something you would like to discuss, feel free to start another thread That is a slippery slope tho, and can get very expensive quite quickly, so you have to have a feel for your needs. Thats needs, not wants.

Crank scrapers. http://www.crank-scrapers.com/Datsun-Nissan.html

KA24, KA24e, KA24de: There are dual scrapers available which operate on both the up- and downstroke of the engine. $74.95

There are also windage trays available for the Ka24, KA24e and KA24de engines. The windage tray is designed to work with the stock pan -- the directional screening panels nest above areas not previously shielded from windage. $169.95

ON TO NICO!!!!

KA engine weight, fully dressed

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/g81...ht/CIMG9549.jpg

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/299879

amazing lots-o-info KA thread
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/99647

Some super interesting Cali smog stuff. I'm getting the feeling that they're converting to propane, and making the vehicle pemanently CARB exempt. interesting http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/156287

Information about BrianCrower cams http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/333536

Hey, look at that. I just spent an hour or two reading thru their KA forum, only to realize I was in the KA-T/KADE-T. Dammit. I see theres another form JUST for the NA shit. urg. lots of info in the turbo section tho!

i realize that OEM is the best fit on a rebuild kit

but, the aftermarket of the KA is prob vey high because of the 240.
are there any performance rebuild kits?

or would OEM be good enough?




fits a VG30E, thats cool

The more and more I read this thread the more and more I want to ditch my ca18 build and go for a ka build instead...damn I'm soo torn

The KA can handle boost nicely, as long as you aren't looking for anything crazy, then internals need to be upgraded. But out of the box, .6L more displacement is nice. Not a high-revver, but with that torque....



There are performance rebuild kits, can get pricey, but oem ones are good enough.... depending on what you want to do. The OEM stuff is good enough up to a certain point, and then you'll need to upgrade. You first have to decide what power level you need, and build accordingly.

The Cobra MAF can be adapted to any engine Jim Wolf works with, as they just reflash the ECU accordingly.

this thread is full of win! thanks sterling for gathering it all in one thread. now we need to start a ka-t part thread.

well im talking about just drifting, etc.

im prob gonna start with exaust intake and coil on my KA, will probally be basically it for awhile

but i want to be able to run hard, without failure, i dont need more then 200 HP in my range of fun.

i wanna stay around exactly 200


would OEM gaskets hold that?
or should i save more pennies?

Standard gasket kit+ metal head gasket (like Cometic), yes. Head studs probably good too.

For 200hp, you'll want a turbo setup, a simple one will do. 200hp turbo is very obtainable, stock pistons fine. 200hp on N/A? possible,.... but very expensive, and not very streetable. 200hp is a nice, obtainable, sane, non-parts-breaking, non-wallet-breaking, streetable goal. A basic turbo system will serve you well in this regard

Basic KA turbo system can be done for cheap if you hunt around, look for deals, listen to people, etc.

If you've got any questions regarding that, please start another thread. I've got no problem keeping up with a KA turbo thread if you want to have one

But for now, the KA's stock output of 160hp (maybe 140ish to the wheels) is good fun, and getting the engine in there and running will be enough of a challenge for you at this point (you're still learning) then you get to add boost and learn about that

agreed.
can you explain the standard/metal?

i realize i need nissan OEM gasket kit for a KA24DE

does the year matter for gasket kits?
and what else would i need for a rebuild?

A standard gasket is kindof this crush type material, softish, its metal tho. The MLS or mult-layered steel gaskets is what I was talking about, they are several thin layers of steel in an arrangement and locked together so that when everything is assembled its a stronger gasket. Its more rigid, if you want to think of it that way.

I'm still deciding on MLS or copper. MLS is really sufficient, but I like the idea of being able to reuse it in a teardown.

Go with whatever year the engine came out of. I haven't looked at my block, but on most engines there is a serial number, which you could go to Nissan with and have them look it up if you didn't know where the motor came from. Again, I don't know if this is true with Nissan.

A full rebuild kit is going to have the entire gasket kit, new piston rings, new rod and main bearings.

On top of this, you want a new water pump, thermostat (get the Nissan one), spark plugs, plug wires, cap and rotor, 5qts oil, new trans fluid, jug of new coolant.

New clutch/resurfaced flywheel.

Lots of chemicals including cleaners/degreasers, engine assembly lube, loctite (probably only need blue), pipe thread sealer (also called pipe joint compound, don't get teflon tape), other stuff I'm forgetting.

Clean surface large enough to work on.

A variety of engine rebuilding specialty tools, such as: Ring compressor, Plastigage, Micrometers, and other stuff I'm again forgetting. lol

Like I said, maybe not in this thread, but budget at least $500.

Again, not including any hotrod parts in there, all stock/necessary parts.

that gauge and switch thing where the radio used to be is sweet. for my ka-t i just rock a boost gauge and wideband reader in the spot for the center vents along with a few swithes in the plastic thing around the shifter

Yeah, its pretty neat. Its on an S13, but its so pimp, I just had to share.

Oh and thanks Joe, its not done yet, but I definitely feel a KA-T parts thread being started, eventually.

Actually, a good deal of this info can go either way, really.

A more condensed/organized version could come a bit down the road, and be stickied.

I would have thought something like this in an organized form would have been done already on one of the Nissan/240sx forums, but I have yet to find one that is decent/comprehensive...

unless someone knows of one

a 500 dollar budget on rebuilding a 500 dollar engine is perfect
thanks for this,
this thread is BOOKMARKED,
and it means alot to me

I'm not trying to put down the club here, but the best KA-T info is ka-t.org.

Can it be better organized? I suppose so. And some of their info is a bit dated now too.

Since Sterling is manning the KA NA thread, I'll probably work on the KA-T thread myself. I need to since, well, he plans to stay NA and I plan to go turbo.

So it just makes sense.

Like Sterling said, much of the info in this thread can lean either way. But to keep things consistent I'll duplicate the info where applicable.

Sterling I still think you should play with ITB's and standalone at some point

Oh fuck, you bet. I've already been searching for ITBs, and have some leads.

Thats a ways down the road.

KA turbo info, definitely KA-t. We may not bother starting a thread, but its good for asking questions I suppose, or providing links. I'll not mess with that, leave it for one of you fellas.

what about carb setups? where are they to be found? iv'e sean them on mini trucks and 510's with the ka's, single slam or the duals, but i have yet to find a dual carb setup for my ka24de. who makes one? how much? as this is something i'm somewhat intrested in

Personally, to me... Carbs=evil. I don't know how to tune them, the can't compensate for atmospheric pressure changes (applicable to me, I'll be living near the mountains and you'd better believe I'll be up there), don't have a computer to tell me whats wrong, don't get as good gas mileage, etc.

Not that its not doable, its just totally not me.

If you were interested in that route (which would be hella cool and easy if you knew how to do it) I would go after the Datsun guys, who have done carbs on KA, and see what they say.

In other words, I would look to them, and copy their setups.

Dual sidedrafts

Total Seal piston rings, *note* ca20! lol
http://www.totalseal.com/pdf/TS_2005_Catalog.pdf
page 64 of pdf, page 62 of catalog
top ring set M0664 second ring set T0664

Mishimoto radiator http://www.mishimoto.com/nissan-240sx-perf...r-89-94-ka.html
all Nissan listings http://www.mishimoto.com/nissan-radiator-p...e-aluminum.html

Distributors http://www.mishimoto.com/locate-a-distributor.html

Zilvia discount thread http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=157742

For midwest/east coasters, I picked up my Mishimoto rad SHIPPED for $225, that comes directly from the manufacturer, which is out of Georgia apparently. Just make sure you clarify whether you are getting a KA one or an SR one, because they had me set up for a SR one when I went to check the part # so just varify that its a model # MMRAD-240-89KA and you should be fine.

FROM this place www.maperformance.com Modern Automotive Performance 763 545 3800

There are plenty on the east coast, but I would shop around for best price... this supplier was in the midwest section on the distributor page.

ive seen carb conversions on ka24e's. jwt is a rip, get something that you can tune the maps yourself. i was looking at daughterboard setups and bikirom looks pretty good, its just that it would be hard to find a local tuner. i know a few people myself but for the average guy its hard

Yeah, JWT is expensive, but their product is good. I'll look into those other two you mentioned, as I'll be living in socal shortly, and finding a tuner there shouldn't be too difficult.

if your looking for a tuned ecu you need to get in touch with jason from e-mance. he hooks it up for CHEAP. socketed and tuned my KA ecu for 85 even!!! nothing jwt can do that e-mance cant

Please elaborate ^^

^ +1

I'm going to start a thread about Nistune, something Hung (mod_mastas) "tuned" me into har har har