sooooo which is better?

I'm leaning toward the single slammer because it seems so much easier to work on and cost less in the end.

what i really want to know is build up $$$ wise. what would be better? and aftermarket support for each of them.

whatever, in the end they're the same shit. KA is KA is KA. Get it, fuck it up, get another one for 100 bucks. Spend the money you save on a bottle of mitsuya cider and tonkatsu curry for the rest of forever.

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I don't know why but I justed laughed like a fucking goon...


Go with the DE, there's a reason they deiced to go with 2 cam's instead of just 1.

thats the thing though, it needs 2 cams, SOHC well..... needs just one and when i buy performance cams i don't have to buy 2 and i have that one just there on the ex and intake. if that even made sense.

but i notice more aftermarket support for the DE then the E (I.E valves rockers etc)

well i can find a DE here for 150 with a tranny and ecu and wiring harness is a 1 time buy so once i blow up the first KA its another 100 dollars

If this site teaches you anything Jeff, don't take the cheap route....

The cheap route? It's not like buying a fubard sr20 for 500 bucks, it's a legit KA. Whatever way you go, it's a reliable chunk of iron and it gets replaced cheaply. This isn't cheap, it's smart.

unless if you have both KA's in front of you saying pick meee
just get whatever you see first, im sure it will blow, and bam for cheap youll find another one

Ok there's a lot of bullshit in this thread so let me be to the point. The KA24DE has more HP and torque. And you can get it reasonably cheap. Just get the DE, don't skimp.

You don't even need performance cams. Get the DE and see. Or just ask Sterling who finally drove my car the day before yesterday, and his reaction at first accelleration: "Ohhhhh HOLY FUCK!"

(or some such utterance lol)

Have you driven the shit out of a single cam? I could hardly tell the difference driving the shit out of sohc and dohc on our local mountain road. The pull feels the same, power band feels the same, they're just too similar to even care. Putting money into NA power is reaching for the stars, so why bother with single or dual?

Tell me Arro, aside from the slight technical advantages, why should he care if it's dual or single? It'll feel the same. It's easy to replace, GET WHATEVER. Getting a single cam isn't skimping

like i said get the one that comes first, lowermiles means better unless if they rev there engine too much like a fag

I guess for you, you see these engines as semi-disposable, and really don't care much about one minor advantage over another.

I prefer a more advanced electronic design for one thing, and for another, I'm not just basing it on what I know, I did a lot of reading on KA-T.org. Which is a great place to ask this question, as they probably know more about this question than we do.

the de and e electronics are basically the same up until the dohc went obd2. the sohc is far easier to work on, like doing the timing chain for instance. i heard the sohc head has more room to port and such. scca racers mainly ran the ka24e from what i gather. the sohc doesnt make the timing chain noise as bad, but it does make some nasty lifter sounds anytime you rev it. the de is indeed more powerful in both hp and torque. de has oil squirters. the sohc has the highest compression of the ka series from the factory. you can use a 280zx high flow oil pump on either engine.

Should semi-disposable be the motto when you're working with a project car? These aren't show queens.

LOl I know dude, you've made that clear to all of us many times, that these cars aren't top notch in your eyes, and to some extent I agree with you. But I'd never call an engine semi-disposable unless it was a CA20E. While I agree that these are not the wonder-cars that some of the people on here treat them like, I think you sometimes take it too far the other diretion, and undersell them. They're often beaters, but they don't HAVE to be, and a few of them on here aren't.

Plus when someone is dropping a few hundred for an engine, they want to make the most of that. Not everyone has that lackadaisical approach to parts and the S12 that you do

Some of us would prefer to maximize our investment, and indeed do see what we do with our cars as just that -- an investment. Not for a monetary return, but for use potential.

I say fuck it and get what suites your needs if it's the single cam you want because you think it'll be easier on the wallet then go for it if you'd rather go dohc because of the power difference then go nuts but ultimatly you make the decision sit back do some research think about what would be best for you then go after the motor you want...


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get the motor in better condition, i would pick up an extra engine too if the price is right. i certainly dont expect the KA to last forever

its okay he drives a s2000 with 128 tq with VTAK AHAHAHAHAHA

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listen to him, and erase all the other posts in this thread.

Jesus, you don't know a shit about anything do you?

/facepalm

ok ok ok enough, this thread's gonna get closed before it gets outta hand


Look, if anyone just wants to find a GOOD answer to this, go to http://www.ka-t.org, sign up on the forum, and ask the people that tune these things day in and day out, in both SOHC and DOHC. Ask the question there, because here, none of us know for sure, regardless of what some say.

heck, you might even find a line on an engine there.