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David B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC5lSsKlwcA...re=channel_page


watch, and LMK what you think
brewster240
timing is off.

wrong firing order, distributor 180 out, etc
David B
like do i take the dizzy out, and rotate the gear 180 and then plug n play
brewster240
set the engine to top dead center.

pull the cap off and make sure the rotor is facing #1, if its not, pull out the distributor and line it up.

then double check your firing order.
cannan89
Yup, what Brewster said...
silvia love
i dont think the dist. is off 180*, it would still start with the dist off, at least mine did. check to make sure your cam is lined up with the crank, seems like the valves are opening at the wrong times.
i dont really hear the compression being built up, i just heard the one bang and nothing else.
Julie
i received a ka24e dizzy with my s13, so let me know if you need it. ill give you a good price
David B
QUOTE(julie @ Mar 7 2009, 03:41 PM) *

i received a ka24e dizzy with my s13, so let me know if you need it. ill give you a good price



thanks for the offer julie but i already have TWO parts ka's lol i swapped dizzys no luck
brewster240
the timing is good?
silvia love
there are 2 different ka dizzys. the hitachi and mitsubishi...that could be your problem too.

have you done a compression test?
Phisherman09
yeah the backfire indicates somethin is wacked out with timing. check both cam and ignition timing.

what brewster said is a high possibility,dizzy off 180.
David B
QUOTE(silvia love @ Mar 7 2009, 09:55 PM) *

there are 2 different ka dizzys. the hitachi and mitsubishi...that could be your problem too.

have you done a compression test?



can i even backfire without compression?



okay rotating the dizzy 180, what exatly am i rotating



cam timing is on dial, i checked, and had my friend checked, i just have to get outside and take the valve cover off, reset to topd dead center, and then check and see wtf my ignition timing says and make sure the fireing order is alright i guess
s12god
My VG30E sounded like that when it had a bent valve.

minus the fire.
silvia love
rotating the dizzy...

**set your engine to tdc on cyl 1.
**remove dist. cap
**if your engine is at tdc the rotor in the cap should be facing towards 4-5o'clock looking at it from the drivers side fender. it should be pointing at cyl 1, which is like this crappy art. \\\= the rotor pointing towards cyl 1 at tdc


3***********4
****\\\****
******\\\***
2***********1
Jay
QUOTE(silvia love @ Mar 8 2009, 05:54 PM) *

rotating the dizzy...

**set your engine to tdc on cyl 1.
**remove dist. cap
**if your engine is at tdc the rotor in the cap should be facing towards 4-5o'clock looking at it from the drivers side fender. it should be pointing at cyl 1, which is like this crappy art. \\\= the rotor pointing towards cyl 1 at tdc
3***********4
****\\\****
******\\\***
2***********1



^ :word:

Other thing to note. When setting it to TDC on cylinder one do it on the compression stroke. PLUS! once that's done. Pull out the dizzy. Line up the two lines on the gear and casting on the dizzy, And then rotate it backwards one tooth. When the helical gears mesh together they rotate slightly, so that is pretty crucial to do. Then it's just a matter of rotating the dizzy to the proper initial timing. I had to do it a billion times on my dual cam in the 240, and I got used to doing it pretty quickly.

Easy way to tell compression stroke

Pull off valve cover, pull out spark plug. When rotating engine watch the rockers on the intake (left looking at engine from front) to lift up, Then keep rotating until you see the top of the piston in the spark plug hole. and take it to its highest point. Or just stick a straw in and watch it. You'll know what to do. and BAM! time her up, then fire her up.
David B
okay thanks, last time we used a zip tie ill set it to tdc on the compression stroke, set the ignition timing,

find some stock intake that will fit.

and try to start again
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