just to make shure, thats the wires that need to be spliced right? i was looking at sterlings wiring diagram, saw the purple box, but my wires dont match his colors? and i dont have that many wires. on the purple box all three conectors that are on that line only have two or three wires on them. i have no grey or white wire.



these are the wirs coming from the ka harness, i cut off the brown connector and put them into this male adapter. so i need to match these up to the pic above this one.



now the top pic is mine and the bottom pic is silvia loves, note the green box his is on the passenger and mine is on the drivers thats weird to me. and what is the round thing in the foreground on my pic.


i assume sine i have two of these that one is the starter and one is the alternator?


well my car is in my garage downstairs now so i can snap whatever pics you need to see to help. let me know. im pulling my hair out.

i believe your on the wrong side of the bay... look where the old MAF box was




drivers side

i didnt use clips i soldered it all together





the ALT on the stock chassy harness is a T looking i think u have it pictured


u need to go to a yard, and splice a alt. plug onto that T one


the starter wire is like one wire it should clip in







if you dont feel like going to the yard go to radio shack and get those little things you solder onto the wire so it just clips inside the alt plug, where the metal tab is

allright... this is a bit more difficult than I would have imagined to explain, but I'll give it a shot.

1) The S12 connectors you will be splicing to are on the drivers side under the airbox location. Since yours are an 84, they should be white, and have 6 pins each. The pic you have of the 4 pin thing is for the CA20 distributor, and will not be needed.

2) When you lay out the KA harness in the engine bay, and the harness is situated as it was in an S13 (as in, the harness passes thru the passenger side firewall where I modified Jason's car in that pic from awhile back) the S13 KA connectors you will be using will be located approx. by the battery tray, on a long independent run of wires.

3) You will need to run a jumper harness between these two.

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^I believe these are the connectors for the windshield washer pump and level warning light in the S12. should have nothing to do with the motor.



^ I'm not sure what this connector is, can you get a better pic?

sterling that last pic i think he means thats his ecu wiring i guess he made... a generic plug to plug to whenever he finds the chassy wires

http://www.club-s12.org/forums/index.php?s...=25434&st=0


READ








jump harness


heres the s12 side, by the drivers light



heres where the jumper goes. to the passengers side




tape that shit












its about 10 wires. only 5 really to get the ride started









kay i dont think i could point it out any better

Ok, David just got a good start there for you, thats a great pic of the location of the S12 connectors that you'll need to splice to, he simply cut the connectors off.



^These are stock S12 connectors that you will not use. But for your reference, they are from left to right, A/C compressor clutch connector, Power Steering Pressure Switch connector, and CA20 distributor connector. The thing underneath taped to the harness is a diode block for the tach, just leave it there.




^he did some very interesting things with his wiring, which was very effective but more complex, so I've not explained it to anyone. The green box is the EFI relay, it is normal for it to be on the pass side on MK1 cars, but its usually more hidden. What round thing are you talking about? Those are the battery connections there in your hand...



^This is the plug for the alternator. Excellent pic. Here is what you will need to do: The thick black wire is a supplemental ground for the alternator, so there should be a screw on the case that it goes to. Now the black 'T' shaped plug is what would normally plug into the alternator to serve as a field voltage supply (hard to explain atm) but regardless, the KA alternator is set up for an oval plug. Get an oval plug from an S13 or similar nissan alternator and cut the 'T' plug off and splice on the oval plug. On the 'T' plug, is one wire white with a red stripe? (WHITE/RED by my usual naming methods)

There should also be a thick white wire with those connections with an eyelet terminal crimped at the end, that too goes to the alternator, serving as the power output. take a pic of the back of the alternator and I will show you this detail.

As for the starter wire, look for a spade-type connection among these loose connectors in that lower harness. Its usually black and has a rubber sleeve over it. that just pushes onto the spade terminal of the starter. If your car was manual originally, it will be BLACK/YELLOW, and if it was automatic before, it will be BLACK/RED.


These questions are greatly helping my further adjustment of those how-to threads, but for ease's sake, I'll pm you my number, feel free to call and it might be a bit easier to explain, but toss up as many pics and ?s as you like...

yea sterling i dunno why but at first your writeup didnt make any sense at all to me haha


theres not a specific place on it that says, HERE IS WHERE U PUT WIRES lol

but without it i would be screwed

haha thanks now im starting to get it. the confusion came from silvia loves pics, and me overthinking things. i should be on my way now. i know what plugs on the drivers side you mean.

the round thing that im taling about is in the pick with the power steering connector switch. (you hav mine and silvia loves hands switched) * now that i look at the pic you cant tell but im dark skinneded(lol)

i was wondering why everything in silvialoves chassis looked backwards compared to mine.

yeah that last generic plug is what i picked up from radioshack, i have the male end as well for when i find where the wires go.

ill take better pics of the alternator and distributer stuff in a min.

my efi relay appears to be on the drivers side, if its the thing pictred in post #5 pic 1 ??

so has anyone put the ecu under the drivers side by the hood release and ran the brunt of the harness throuhg the driverside fenderwell where the old harness comes from??

you can run the harness that way, but its rather tight, as it wasn't engineered to be that long. not particularly a good idea imo. another thing to perhaps consider is a port on the driver's side to run the harness thru like under the master cyl or by the slave cyl, but its hella tight in there, and there is more stuff on the other side.

the round thing I think you are talking about then would be the coil. You'll need the BLACK/WHITE wire that goes to one of them (its the same wire) for the S12->S13 wiring, see the chart.

so you got that plug @ Radioshack?? badass! grab a pick of the bags/cartons they were in if you could, that would be super handy to know. looks like a good idea.

your efi relay is indeed on the drivers side, different options result in different placements of the relays.

i have two coils?? well there were two of them on the car.

ill post pics of the bags up in a sec, i got the 12 pin one and it was only like 200, im not to shure i like the way it keeps the male female together but oh well i can just tape them up.

ok this is a kinda silly question, but when you say black and red wire, you men the black wire with red kinda spots?

only wires i have left now are the pink and the purple/white wire, and the the plug with the orange/blue wire group and of course the coil wiring

i do have two black/green wires, one is thicker than the other. the thicker one is with the black/yellow, green/orange wire group. the other is with the orange/blue wire group.

heres where im at so far. we will use this pic for reference so the colors dont confuse you guys. this is from the s12 side the plug that had the pink and the purple wires.



this is the s13 side, more directly this is where the brown plug used to be. I have two brown wires. and i think some of the colors sterling posted in his diagram are different on my harness.


this is the second plug on the s12 side. the black and red wire is that the air regulator?

CA18/CA20 have two coils, yes. this is normal.

When I say BLACK/RED this means black with a red stripe. I dunno what the dots are about, they do not mean anything. If the wire is black and has those red dots, its still simply a black wire, etc.

I'll get to the questions about the pics in a bit.

sorry forgot to update again.

got the black wire that goes to the black/pink wire on the s13 harness (brown plug) done. whats left is the pink wire, and the yellow/blue on the brown plug. most of the wires from the other s13 harness. and then the s12 wires from the plug in the last pic i posted.

sterling you mentioned the black/with red spots wire in your writeup, i just need to extend it and ground it, i got that covered.

Honestly, I'm not too clear on the pics of the wires... can you spread them out a bit so that all can be seen in the pic? this would be better. also, clean the wires with some brakeclean or soap&water so that the colors can be seen easily.

in the first picture, did you start to extend the wires or something?

one of the BLACK/RED wires on the S12 harness is indeed the power supply for the air regulator, yes. Try and grab some slightly cleaner pics of the connectors so we can figure out which is which.


we posted at the same time.

Look REALLY close at the writeup, if you GROUND the S12 BLACK/RED wire you will blow fuses. The S12 BLACK/RED is a 12v power supply.

yeah the first pic is of the jumper harness, i just re-used some extra wire.

the only wires i have left are the pink one on the s12 side (bottom right, in the first pic)

the pics we see are going to vary greatly because im on a 32 inch lcd, but ill see if i can get som better pics of what im working with now.

not the black/red wire.....
"So what I do is either splice in a wire to that black-with-red-dots wire in PICTURE #1 and connect the longer wire to ground, or just connect that original one directly to ground with a screw, its whatever you like."


oh sterling my number is 719-205-0199 by the way.

Greg.

i hope these pics are a bit better. my camera wont snap certain pics for some reason, its like it rejects something about the distance and ligh?? itll beep and then not take the pic. anyways.



this is the second set of wires on the s13 harness, it was the plug other than the brown one. the wire colors that are left are :(left to right) black, red/blue, black/red(thicker wire)
,green/yellow,red.



this is the s12 side. underneath the brown wire are from left to righ:

black/red, pink(the bright predominant wire),blue/white,...let me see if i can get a better pic hold on. I cant get any closer,the cam wont let me. but its the plug that was in my pic that had the air fuel regulator.

what do you mean... you splice whatever to whatever, just read the chart that has the wires

that parts done.