nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 03:56 AM
1. greddy claims to make a "bolt on" kit for the ka24de, I am wondering what you guys think about it.
http://www.intensepower.com/grtukit249.htmlI am asking because I am considering a 510 and dont want to deal with finding an sr20 and sourcing all the crap to get it here.
rage
Jun 23 2009, 04:00 AM
its a shit ton of wasted money for a mediocre dsm 20g. its not a bad kit, but you could top tier parts for that much money, like garrett ballbearing shit, tial, etc etc
silvia love
Jun 23 2009, 04:00 AM
not worth the money imo.....
you could piece something together for cheaper with better results...
join www.ka-t.org
u dont even get an intercooler with that kit
rage
Jun 23 2009, 04:00 AM
GROSSS and it comes with emanage, hahaha. thats like a $1200 turbo kit
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 04:01 AM
im a fool when it comes to turbos right now,so is the ka ok to boost with a stock block and pistons??
five10freak
Jun 23 2009, 04:07 AM
build ur own kit, it would be cheaper.
problem with those kits is that u would use the mani,turbo,injectors,rail and a few more parts, but most of all the tubing,brackets,lines,etc,etc are garbage as all of that would need to be custom made to fit a 510
been there, doin it now,LOL
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 04:09 AM
for daily driver though,is a turbo setup reliable enough at like under 10 lbs of boost?im not looking for a MASSIVE amount of power but around 200 or so hp
five10freak
Jun 23 2009, 04:15 AM
QUOTE(nismologist @ Jun 23 2009, 12:09 AM)

for daily driver though,is a turbo setup reliable enough at like under 10 lbs of boost?im not looking for a MASSIVE amount of power but around 200 or so hp
then drop a KA24DE in it. a buddy of mine has one in Florida, all stock and it rocks. fast enough to tighten the sphincter muscle.
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 04:17 AM
that sounds like a solid idea. all smog equipment will be removed,not to mention what head work could possibly yeild with cams/lifters etc.
RB25sx - SLPR
Jun 23 2009, 06:33 AM
I think the opening line sums it up quite nicely (from their site).
"Designed specifically for the factory 240SX’s KA24 DE engine, the GReddy 20G Turbo Kit is a great alternative to complicated SR20DET engine transplants,"
Who the hell ever said SR20 swaps were complicated COMPARED TO just slapping a turbo on an NA motor??
I would keep the turbo and manifold, and trash the rest.
-Dan
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 07:55 AM
i didnt even see a price...lol that is a waste.
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 09:24 PM
anyone know of any good cams for the ka24de?
Jay
Jun 23 2009, 09:33 PM
QUOTE(nismologist @ Jun 23 2009, 04:24 PM)

anyone know of any good cams for the ka24de?
You don't need cams until your going for some serious power outta that KA. The stock cams do quite well up to 400+ Hp.
As per KA-T.org DOHC turboing for dummies, Cam's are not mentioned until the wild build (425-600 WHP)
If your leaving it stock, no real use in getting the cams at all..
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 09:56 PM
cams can only help.if im going n/a( which is where i am headed first so i can have a reliable 510 to go to school with and what not.i would want everything on the top end to be done,the entire head would get a big overhaul.when people say ka t do they mean sohc or dohc the majority of the time?
just tried to check out ka-.org,but that place is a shitty site and its hard for me to even read.
Jay
Jun 23 2009, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(nismologist @ Jun 23 2009, 04:56 PM)

cams can only help.if im going n/a( which is where i am headed first so i can have a reliable 510 to go to school with and what not.i would want everything on the top end to be done,the entire head would get a big overhaul.when people say ka t do they mean sohc or dohc the majority of the time?
I'm going to come out say this flat out. There is absolutely zero point on building a KA for N/A. Leave it stock. And if I didn't have track plans, I would leave it as is. It's indescribable how perfect they are for an S12 (I can't remember if you had one or not). I can imaging a 510 being even better.
I have a car sitting in my garage that i'm redoing because my friend is an idiot, and put a DOHC head on a SOHC block. While it bolted up and ran. It runs like garbage. 12:1 compresion, even tuned. it pulled 134 Wtq on the dyno, and decides when to run. That's my personal experience
Other examples
drifting.comsomeone on NICOAnd there's a lot more.
The highest recorded N/A KA I've ever heard of is 220 wtq, and they spend nearly 11k. Just to see if it's possible, and deemed it pointless.
I personally wouldn't even spend the money getting it redone at all. They're so dirt cheap that if in the case of it actually breaking down (When not abused, Ka's last for damn ever) even buying an expensive one is nearly half the price of getting it professionally rebuilt.
Oh, and when people say KA-T, they mean both the SOHC and the DOHC. but the DOHC is generally accepted as the better way to go, but that comes up to a personal preference/what's available. Either one are WICKED motors when boosted. Even a Small T25 or T28 can yield a good 240 Wtq
my .2 tacos
P.S. The site's not hard to read at all.
Go here
nismologist
Jun 23 2009, 11:05 PM
you obviously misread my post.
"im not looking for a MASSIVE amount of power but around 200 or so hp"
if i were to get cams,lifters,valves and a port and polish,it would be able to be boosted later on...i am just going to start with the head.
still cant read it.the grey letters i cannot read.that site is messy and really jumbled up.the letters are just to light for me to read through it.
thankyou for the links to the other site. i am just trying to get the engine ready for boost later on mainly. while she is NA how would i go about getting the fuel to make a back fire out of the tail pipe? cams?? and timing?
StockSucks
Jun 25 2009, 01:03 PM
Ok well im going to put my 2 cents in...
A. The greddy kit is a good kit its reliable and they do make power... yes they are overpriced as greddy and hks hold a large share of the import aftermarket. And the emanage is actually a pretty good tuning agent for anything you will need unless you are planning on making some big numbers 400+
B. Ka-t.org is a great site with tons of usefull info
C. you ever need a set of cams the Jimwolf S1 cams or the CROWER, or KElford are some of the best cams on the market for the KA motor
If you have any questions about the ka feel free to pm me i have done a shit ton of stuff with these motors my last one i built had a ported head and knifedged crank i was shooting for 700+ whp... too bad someone wanted more than i did at the time and made me an offer icould not refuse
nismologist
Jun 25 2009, 08:29 PM
so far,the ka has been the sturdiest engine ive considered.im glad nissan overbuilt the engines that came here.
EightySix200SX
Jun 26 2009, 02:13 PM
we got two were workin on here
one ka-t which when we get it tuned were shooting for 350-400whp. it was running a t3/t4 hybrid but it was a defective turbo the casing was cracked.
and one 510 with ka24de soon to be t which my buddy is gonna drift welll he wants to hes lookin for 200-300whp.
then there is me..... i love the torque of the ka and in a gutted s13 coupe i drove i could just imagine it in my s12 with cams and some bolt ons and maybe just maybe a t28 turbo...... then again im onlt looking for 200-250whp. perfect for canyon setup. more or less im doin suspension first of course
nismologist
Jun 26 2009, 08:10 PM
I WOULD BE EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH 250HP
Leegamer
Jun 26 2009, 08:52 PM
QUOTE(nismologist @ Jun 26 2009, 04:10 PM)

I WOULD BE EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH 250HP
250hp in a 510 would be fun as hell.
nismologist
Jun 27 2009, 02:53 AM
are there any usual problems with the ka anybody knows about that i should check before putting it in?
Jay
Jun 27 2009, 02:57 AM
QUOTE(nismologist @ Jun 26 2009, 09:53 PM)

are there any usual problems with the ka anybody knows about that i should check before putting it in?
Main and rod bearings. The achilles heel of the KA is spun bearings. Check them. Gives you the chance to replace a few important (but not necessary) gaskets while your down there too.
nismologist
Jun 27 2009, 04:56 AM
i may end uo buying a running driving 510 and buy a ka and a six speed trans frim an s15 and tear the ka down and replace what i can afford.
Jay
Jun 27 2009, 05:00 AM
QUOTE(nismologist @ Jun 26 2009, 11:56 PM)

i may end uo buying a running driving 510 and buy a ka and a six speed trans frim an s15 and tear the ka down and replace what i can afford.

Solid plan
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